Awhile back I saw the Demania Trio at the Natick Arts Center. What an amazing show. After the show there was a meet and greet session, and I had a question in my head, but it wasn’t fully formed yet. Later it came to me as a pretty cool question to ask everyone in group, so I did that. Below is the question, with responses from Chris Garcia and Michael Manring which they graciously allowed me to share on my humble blog. I think you’ll enjoy.
Question: As an ensemble, I found you guys had an incredible sense of time. I felt like you guys could rest for 400 measures of any of tune, and come back in together on the downbeat. How do you do that? Any ensemble practice tips you could share? Is it just a matter of playing together a lot, or are there some specifics that you could mention “for the rest of us” so we may improve our sense of time and pulse in music and ensemble playing. Take care, Ben
Answer from Chris Garcia (with pieces of the question inline):
Q: As an ensemble, I found you guys had an incredible sense of time.
THANKS
Q: I felt like you guys could rest for 400 measures of any of tune, and come back in together on the downbeat. How do you do that?
the answer is simple and i hope i don’t sound like an idiot
we just listen
like any conversation, you listen,
then you respond,
not react, but respond to the conversation
sometimes you have conversations where things fall silent
the silence is not uncomfortable
it just is what it is
take it as that and everything else just works
Q: Any ensemble practice tips you could share?
knowing the music you are playing first off
and knowing that some pieces are more open than others in regards to structure
if you are working within a harmonic framework you know that it is going to come around again
of course you can break that up rhythmically so that the feel changes and the length of the harmony does not
i.e., a super imposed metric modulation
and/or a straight metric modulation, which would change the length of the harmony
if you are working within an open structure you can either
assign aural cues to get in and out
or just listen
sometimes we have aural cues
sometimes we have them and we don’t use them
just depends on the piece
Q: Is it just a matter of playing together a lot, or are there some specifics that you could mention “for the rest of us” so we may improve our sense of time and pulse in music and ensemble playing.
the “rest of us” DEFINITELY includes me too
i was told that the best way to improve my time was not by locking myself up in a practice room with a metronome
but by walking
believe it or not, everyone walks in their own time
so when you’re walking your right foot could be 1
it could either be a whole note, half note, quarter note or ??
you then sing 3’s, 4′,s 5′,s 6′,s 7′,s 8′,s 9′,s 10’s 11′,s against it
over it until you feel them
it is easier to start with even subdivisions
2’s, 4′,s 8′,s etc
go back and forth between those
then once you are comfortable go into the larger odd groupings
you will eventually feel these
and then you are at the next level
but it should not be some sterile intellectual exercise
sing melodies in those subdivisions
if you can’t sing it
you don’t hear it
which is why you should do it when you are walking and/or running
it becomes part of your LIFE
which eventually reflects thru your music
Answer from Michael Manring:
Hi Ben,
Thanks for the question and kind comments. I suppose it’s not a matter of
playing a lot together because we really don’t get to play together very
often! We’re all pretty obsessive about keeping the “radar” up when we’re
playing — not only listening as deeply as possible, but looking for any
visual cues as well. We do a lot of work in an Indian-based rhythmic system
that allows us to share a certain understanding of how things might proceed,
so that helps. Our version of it is far from authentic, but it does offer a
common framework. We tend to take a lot of chances and if it was a bigger
group it’d be harder to pull off, but with a trio, if everyone is really
tuned in you can be pretty musically agile.
Best wishes,
Michael
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